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Author Topic: Sweet Dragons mutation?  (Read 353 times)

SkyZazel

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Sweet Dragons mutation?
« on: September 21, 2012, 08:31:58 PM »
I was wondering about Dragons colors, i am pretty sure she is related to my Greywing, Storm, since they seem to have a similar color and yellow face. But i was wondering what (besides not being a grey factor) was different about Storm and Dragon? and if they could be related?

Storm is a Grey YF M2 Opaline, here is a link to a picture of her http://dangerous-imaging.deviantart.com/art/Stormborn-328505155

I have posted a Front picture and a back picture of Dragon on my deviant art!

Link to front: http://dangerous-imaging.deviantart.com/art/Sweet-dragon-For-Parakeet-place-328503796

Link to back: http://dangerous-imaging.deviantart.com/art/Sweet-Dragon-for-forum-328504026

Also, im aware all of the new babies have scaly mites, they are being treated with ivermectin :)

Thanks!

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Billy: African Grey
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Sarah

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Re: Sweet Dragons mutation?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2012, 11:24:38 PM »
Well, in my opinion I am quite sure they are related if not full siblings because their mutation is so unusual and so similar. They are not, however, from the same clutch. They are at least two months apart. Stormborn is growing in her adult feathers. She will become more yellow in the coming weeks, and she has already lost her baby head bars. Her color seems richer and bolder, because it is. Dragon will come to look like her almost exactly in a few months, but for now is more silver because her yellowface mutation has not stained as  much of her body. Their adult underfeathers will be cream colored from the YFM2. Their baby feathers are white. Obviously you can see how this will effect the grey tones above.

If pressed, I would guess that they have the same parents who were double clutched, hence their extreme similarity in appearance  but difference in age.

The only difference is that Dragon is not a Greywing. She is an Opaline Grey factor, probably masking sky blue- also with YFM2. Grey wing and Grey factor are different you see: grey wing affects the traditionally black striping on the wing feathers ect. Grey factor on the other hand turns the blue body feathers grey. Am I making sense? I think not. >.<
« Last Edit: September 21, 2012, 11:27:30 PM by Sarah »

SkyZazel

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Re: Sweet Dragons mutation?
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2012, 07:17:01 AM »
that is really interesting! is "double clutching" safe?

Im looking at them both now and your right, storm is much brighter and most of her flight feathers are in!

I think i actually do understand what your saying! the body color differs just slightly between the sisters, and of course the very striking difference in the wings :)

Thankyou very much Sarah! :)
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Re: Sweet Dragons mutation?
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2012, 09:29:39 AM »
Double clutching is very common practice. It is difficult to describe how I feel about it. Each subsequent clutch in a row, much less in a year is an increased risk on the health of both parents. However, it is natural. It is what they do in the wild, have two clutches very quickly in the summer before the rains and abundant seeds go away for the year. In an ideal world people would only breed their budgies the one time a year for lower risks, but the Budgies don't want to do that, and frankly most breeders want to have more chicks to sell anyway. I will say that it is horrifically irresponsible for a third or fourth clutch to be encouraged, and if the birds manage to sneak extra clutches the eggs should be taken away to be raised apart from the parents and the parents should be separated from each other, else they might so deplete their bodies in an effort to raise their young that they could very well die. Double clutching safe enough if both parent birds are on the younger side of life, proven parents and are  in very good health and eating a wide range of high quality foods, especially high protein eggfood and fresh fruit and veg.


 

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