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Author Topic: Multiple Nest Boxes  (Read 690 times)

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Multiple Nest Boxes
« on: February 12, 2012, 03:11:51 PM »
Can I keep multiple breeding pairs and nest boxes for one cage?


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Re: Multiple Nest Boxes
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 03:46:23 PM »
You can actually do this, and this is called colony breeding. With this kind of set up you should have about 20% more nest boxes available than pairs you have. However, if possible, or if you only have a couple pairs, I recommend against the colony breeding situation, as it can result in fighting over nest boxes (which is why you need extra nest boxes) and sometimes hens will go into other nest boxes and throw out or kill the babies. So if possible, you'll have the most success with breeding in separate but nearby cages with their own nest boxes. The pairs will be less stressed, so they'll be able to care for the chicks better, and you won't have to worry about hens attacking other nest boxes.

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Re: Multiple Nest Boxes
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 06:44:21 AM »
I agree with Mindy. It takes a very specific group of budgies for something like this to end well.  I bought a flock of budgies from an inexperienced breeder who had been successfully colony breeding her budgies with only one box in the flight. She has no idea how lucky she was that none of her birds met with disaster, but it was because as it turned out, she only had one mature hen in the whole flock. Each of the babies had different fathers who attended to her at different times during her brooding. In THAT singular situation it worked out, but I strongly advise against it as well. There's too much risk.
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Re: Multiple Nest Boxes
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 03:30:45 PM »
Wow, Vicki!  What a lucky mom she was to have many of the males helping her out - that must have been quite something to see =)

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Re: Multiple Nest Boxes
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 05:20:11 PM »
Chris, it really WAS interesting to watch - and believe me, I watched very very closely the entire time.  When I bought the flock the hen was already on eggs, so I was anxious from the beginning.  Transporting a nesting hen 45 miles is pretty darn risky! 

But when they got here and got settled in, it was interesting watching them interact.  The person I bought from had done everything "wrong."  There was only one box in the flight and it was on the ground inside the cage.  I had no way to check the eggs or the hen without moving the box every day or taking all of the birds and recaging them.  I couldn't recage them because most of the males were normal greens or normal blues and I wasn't able to tell which ones were her mates, so I decided to just let it be until the babies were hatched and old enough to pull for handfeeding. 

In the meantime, it was an interesting observation in how this flock interacted.  The single hen stayed in her box the entire time.  The three cocks fed her regularly, but at odd times I'd notice that other birds, hens and cocks alike, would stop by the box opening and peek in... almost as if to say hi. Some of the hens would actually feed the nesting hen, but not too many.  There was always one of her mates standing watch atop the nestbox and if anyone stayed too long he would run them off. 

At one point something interesting happened.  One of her mates was a normal green.  It was not uncommon for me to find one of the cocks in the nestbox with her when I'd open it up to check on things but the males would always hurry out.  One morning I opened the box and found one of her mates in there with her - the green one.   I ignored him and scooted her out of the way to check the babies or eggs or whatever it was that day, but was surprised when he didn't run out of the box.  I was even more surprised when he didn't move at all... especially when I nudged him a little.  Poor little guy had died.  :( 

As it turns out it was not one of her mates, it was one of the older budgies in the flock (the only one who would step-up and stay on my shoulder).  For whatever reason he'd gone into the box to die, and for whatever reason the hen and her mates had allowed him to.  I'm always surprised at what my budgies end up doing.  They're little miracles with wings and I'll always be thankful for the day my daughter brought home the budgie that started it all. 
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Re: Multiple Nest Boxes
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 10:44:22 PM »
Thank you for sharing that, Vicki! Truly an amazing story and I'm glad you shared it with our TBAPP flock.

All this talk, and all the beautiful pictures is really making me want to start breeding little ones again. Unfortunately, my living arrangements aren't conducive to it. =(  My daughter and I bred both American and English for a few years, and I'm afraid we both have the bug now - lol! We'd love to try selectively breeding "rainbows" with some violet occasionally splashed in it. Any offspring that weren't rainbow would still have traits that I love (greywing, dilute, clearflight, opaline, blue, yellow face type II, violet...). The challenge would be both fun, and rewarding. I truly miss it.

How are you doing with handfeeding your babies? Do you do it with some, or all of them? How do you find that it affects the tameness level when they mature? We would love for you to share your experiences with us! Anything and everything you would like to share about the experience would be helpful =)

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Re: Multiple Nest Boxes
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 09:50:32 PM »
Thank you for sharing that, Vicki! Truly an amazing story and I'm glad you shared it with our TBAPP flock.

All this talk, and all the beautiful pictures is really making me want to start breeding little ones again. Unfortunately, my living arrangements aren't conducive to it. =(  My daughter and I bred both American and English for a few years, and I'm afraid we both have the bug now - lol! We'd love to try selectively breeding "rainbows" with some violet occasionally splashed in it. Any offspring that weren't rainbow would still have traits that I love (greywing, dilute, clearflight, opaline, blue, yellow face type II, violet...). The challenge would be both fun, and rewarding. I truly miss it.

How are you doing with handfeeding your babies? Do you do it with some, or all of them? How do you find that it affects the tameness level when they mature? We would love for you to share your experiences with us! Anything and everything you would like to share about the experience would be helpful =)

~ Christine

Handfeeding is going fine.  I actually enjoy it :)   I still really believe that parent-raising is the best way to go - it's easier and safer for everyone involved, but darn it, the babies are always SO excited to see me when I'm handfeeding!  As far as tameness goes, I really believe that what makes the difference is how much human interaction the bird gets while it is in its formative stage.  In my opinion, what makes the difference in budgies is hand-raising, not hand-feeding, and a parent-fed bird can be hand-raised just as much as a hand-fed bird can.  I know there are those who disagree with me, and I'm ok with that.  I'm not an expert and haven't been doing this for years and years!  These are just my observations over the short time I've been involved in this. 

NOW!  My questions for YOU!   :D
I'm terribly curious as to how you would breed for "rainbows."  Like you (and everyone else) I think they're stunning birds, I just don't have any idea how to get from here to ... well ... the end of the rainbow! ha ha!  Any pointers? tips? suggestions? cocktails to ease my frustrations? LOL! 
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Rainbows
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 10:03:36 PM »
Vicki,

Very cool on the hand raising! I actually agree with that. Nothing can substitute for playtime with them as babies. And it is often more quantity than just quality. =) We only had to hand raise a few broods, when their mother started to attack the babies in the nest box for some inexplicable reason.

The part that got me the most was when I would open the box to feed an older bunch (I think it was about the pin feather stage), put my hand in to grab one, and they would ALL LATCH onto my soft hand like a pack of pitbulls looking for blood! I know they were just hungry and wanted to be first, but goodness! LOL! I'd pull out my hand with 6 or 7 budgies latched onto me with their sharp little beaks - good thing I loved them so much - it's amazing what you can put up with in such a case =P

But the most fun was bringing the pinny babies out and letting them play on us. Soooo cute! You could see their personalities developing...who would be the tamest, the shyest, the biters, and the most playful. Lots of fun!

I'll post the Rainbow idea in another thread, or a new thread. It'll take a bit of a post, so may be in a few days. I'm working all weekend, but I'd love to go over it! I <3 genetics!!

Christine



 

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